转宝蓝阁，by 綺～ 原文是、：【SJ金唱片后的一些私下情况(后续)[绝对真实]，我现在发的这些东西,是有绝对的事实，我不会编那么多谎话来骗自家ELF，我认识了一个在SM学习的人，他跟我说的一些东西,我把他整理了一下，发这帖不是要掐架，只是想让更多人知道事实。】
What I’m saying now is the absolute truth. As an ELF myself, I will not weave so many lies to deceive other ELFs. A trainee at SM whom I got to know told me a few things, and I’ve arranged them. My purpose of releasing this is not to spark off fights, but to let everyone know the truth.
Qn: Were the SJ members beaten?
A: Be rest assured, the members were not beaten. However, the SJ members cried. Yesterday, a friend told me that Donghae got really furious. Donghae also got scolded by the manager for getting angry, because of the reason why he got angry. The manager is really unreasonable. They didn’t do anything wrong. Other members like Leeteuk, eunhyuk, donghae and kyuhyun got scolded too.
(Reason was ELFs’ big reaction)
Q: regarding yesung
Yesung is still running a fever.
He was replaced at the last minute.
(His digital daesang award was changed at the last minute)
From what I heard, he was put on a drip at the hospital. Because of his physical condition, he almost fainted and had difficulty getting on the car.
Q: regarding the contracts (the contract they sign to participate in the event Golden Wave concert tonight.)
A: the members didn’t want to sign the contract (re-contract) at first, but was forced to do so in view of upcoming concerts.
(T/N: It could mean the re-contracting to stay in SM?)
Q: regarding the daesang awards
A: The lights were shone on SJ, and Leeteuk even prepared himself. But when the daesang was announced, everyone was shocked. The immediate switch of focus over to SNSD, etc..was all a last minute change.
Regarding yesterday’s awards, many other artists were also taken aback, and the managers comforted SJ.
But what was most unexpected was that even some artists supported SJ, including f(x) and SHINee.
By the way, as some fans going to the shop that Yesung’s mother said Yesung is okay now, ELFs do not worry much !!
T/N: The original article was vague and we intepreted it as it seems. Some parts like the reason behind GDA changing the awards was also not stated. The portion about recontracting was unclear as well. Please DO NOT BASH iRyeowookELF. We only translated what was given and believe it at your own risk.
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i dont understand Q1. can someone explain? tq
According to my own translation from the chinese source, the question actually means “Was SJ hit?” as in literally whacked or something. I think it has some relation to the rumours that SM artistes get hit. The source says they did not get hit, so don’t worry
The manager was just angry at them, especially DongHae, I guess…
donghae must really upset bcoz didn’t won the golden disk award..(probably he knows why..we all know why..SMe is unfair..he will do everything so those shitdaes can win) hae mad–>cry–>got scold bcoz all E.L.F. around the world gave bad feedbacks about GDA in twitter,facebook,bloger,n other thousands websites.hae mad :don’t blame E.L.F.!!!!(we love u Super Junior!!)–>everyone got scold..
well GDA last night can make all people angry ok..even i got really mad about this GDA..huh!! UNFAIR!!!!!
*donghae must be really upset …
I hope super junior join other company~~ Den SM ~~ Maybe other company will treat them better~~~
It actually means whether SJ oppas got beat up.
As in physically beat up (:
can’t get it.. why are they gonna do that?
okay i don’t understand.
the manager do hit SJ members?
what contract?
all staffs and PD gathered sj and their shocked with the results too? what’s going on with this award?
it so dramatic
No..Their manager did not hit them.
Only mad at SJ boys. Poor them.
why did hae cry? sorry.. I still can’t understand about this.. can anyone explain? T___T
I can’t help it~
According to the chinese source, all the members cried. And the author got to know from her friend that Donghae got mad. Then Donghae got scolded because of getting mad (don’t know why anyway).. and Leeteuk, Donghae, Kyuhyun and Eunhyuk all got scolded.
I’m just translating the source.. as for if the info is genuine I’m not sure D:
*Donghae and another member cry because either (rumors)
- Manager wishper Leetuek before perform that they won, but it all lies, they lost.
- They got cheated, the criteria of jugdment change in the last minutes. They suppossed to win 5 award instead of 2. Try to read this http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=167834896588692&id=106501979390852&ref=mf
*the rumor is, an ELF got angry to a staff there. And then the staff being harsh to the ELF and Donghae try to protect them but get scold back by the staff and manager.
Q1: It was said the manager was mad at them because Hae, especially was very angry.
Q2: YeSung is sick.
Q3: I’m so sorry, I also don’t know ’bout that contract thingy. *shrugs*
I hope that helps a bit of the infos.
Contact thing (I think) is about the contact with SM Entertainment.
As SM just do some editing of contact.
But SJ wasnt willing to renew their contact.
Then SM force SJ to renew their contact as there are upcoming concerts like SM town and SS3!
Hope this helps! ^_^
Omogosh! Poor YeSung! He must have really wanted to win! I hope he’s fine and will be fine. *Sighhh* :/
OMG this is what happened? It’s not cool at all. The manager suck
hey i read the chinese version.. it should have been the overall in charge, like the CEO (社长when translated to english is CEO) rather than just a manager in the part i quoted below. pple might mistake it to be the SJ’s manager who’s scolding them but it’s not.. “The manager was scold him because of his angry reason (protect ELF)
The manager is unreasonable, what things that oppa did wrong?”
i don’t understand it .. who hit who and why?? Yesung,my beloved Yesung is sick… T-T otokhae??? ooppa!! are the other members doing well?
ah i don’t get it.
i got more confused
obviously everyone expected them to win that’s why when their name wasn’t called, everyone comforted them…something fishy must have happened as to why they didn’t bagged the award…and it’s really TOO MUCH that despite the patience and hard work they’ve given, they’re still mistreated by SM ;(
The part about Yesung, “The award that Yesung should got has been temporarily changed” << I think it means more of "the award got changed at the last minute", not "temporarily changed"
I don’t know if it the truth or not, but if it ,, that mean SOMAN is a Dog walking behind the money ,, i hate this man ,, soman go to hell ,, still suju the best boy band ever
butting in for a moment
you are blaming your hate at wrong person.
sooman already retired =_=
i just feel pity for sooman being hated because of things he didn’t do.
hello, i think u’ve misunderstood person. suju was under and directly selected by leesooman. LSM had retired this year, and had been taken over by KIM YOUNG MIN. this guy is the one who should be blame. he had done nothing but to torture sj boys, he cut off their budgets for MV, he only like snsd. he sent snsd to japan, he gave them 3 comebacks in a year, he brought the girls to the press conference for slavery contract instead of sj or yunho, or changmin.
this is really unfair!! arghhh i feel like crying again!!
i hate when something like this happen to them! ;(
what the heck with the manager??!! ;(((
Poor Yesung ,I hope he is feeling better now.
SuJu got robbed of the award plain and simple ,after ELF worked so hard to get the award.They win the popularity vote,they have the top sales on Version A which they said will be counted ,and now they add the repackaged album. Boy they got all the versions in the world for one album. A,B C and then the repackaged..one. Why they don’t just count the whole thing ?for goodness sake ,it is the same album..Yesung and SuJu got robbed..
If you realise Yesung’s award have been give to Lee Seung Gi. Super Junior’s Daesang have been given to SNSD. SJ have been forced(in a way) to sign that stupid contract. So it is true that SNSD should not get the award. Its SJ’s. Yet many SNSD fans are bashing the ELFs saying that SNSD deserved the award. Some high authority personnel should look into this matter. Even its just an award. Since GDA has been seen as rightful and fair award. In case you are wondering , I am definitely not trying to bash SNSD or anyone else. Thanks alot to this person who shared these facts to us.
what contract?
changed TEMPORARILY ??! -.- !@#$%^
no offense, but I’ve got so many questions regarding this article:
1) like many others, I don’t get Q1. why Donghae must angry in order to protect ELF? what has ELF done so they need protection?
2) It’s true that Yesung was obviously not well last night. But what does it mean w/ the award he should get was temporarily changed? I don’t think GDA would do such absurd decision and no Korean gave a damn. Even some Yesung’s Korean fanbase don’t mention anything about this. and by the term “temporarily”, it means the real winner eventually will get the award, no?
3) the same thing goes to SJ. I believe K-ELF are more concerned about the GDA result than int ELF; they definitely will protest if something like this happen. I believe they know more than us.
on side notes, I wonder what it means by “most artists has been using their money to help SJ got the award, and fx / SHINee did it too” ._.
I agree with u.. If there’s something wrong with the award I think korean elf will definitely know it first, since they’re there..
And also this article is translated and taken from China website.. How can we know that this info is true??
Regarding the issue of Yesung sickness till he need to be hospitalized .. I saw the yesung fancam video, Yesung doesn’t seem very ill. And if Yesung is able to make a speech when SJ accepting the 2nd award. I think he’s well enough to accept the award for himself.
no. yesung is sick.
i say this because i see the fancam. sorry i forgot the link.
the fancam showed us that yesung is almost fainted when he was standing to give applause – to idk who-, and then ryeowook -i guess- help him with hold yesung hand.
there’s a photo spreading in twitter wherein yesung almost fainted so he must be sick during the ceremony…and there’s a post on naver blog w/c is GDA related but i didn’t understand it that much as it was written in korean and i was only using google trans…
here’s the fancam that I saw.. it’s 11 mnts more, so u can see the whole scene..
When DJ Doc is performing, Yesung is jumping then he almost fainted..
anyways, it’s just my opinion.. feel free to correct me ^^
no he was.
Yesung was very sick. I saw the picture where yesung hold his head and fall like almsost faint. But then wookie who behind him hold him. He pushed him self to be tough..
Poor boys
I’m still wondering what happening. I wish it will have end and solve soon. at least we’ve did our best to support them. There’s still next year, let’s work harder and stronger than ever. We are ELF, right?? hhhee
OMG!
i really don’t understand
what contract they need to sign?
and
other artists already try their best to let SJ win the award
but why in the end, the award goes to SNSD?
this is seriously unfair~
but why heechul look so happy when he talk about signed the contract ,, he siad that all members happy of it ,, are u sure that is true O,O ,,i know it’s not fair cuz suju is the one who should take this award,,??? still can’t understand ???
what contract?
what contract it means? in this posting?
are they sign new contract? what is this all about?
sorry too many asking, i just dont understand
Omo ? Yesung Oppa Is At Hospital ? TT^TT
Does That Mean That What SNSD Won Is Supposed To Be SJ’s ??
yes it’s belong to SJ for sure…
please don’t cty…
u all will make me cry too >,<
duh. Jgn pd percaya ma artikel n komen2 gk jlas diatas. Itu smua cuma mw adudomba antar fans n bikin rusuh suasana ja. Okay. Calm down. Chill out. Cheer up
okay.
now we know that
super junior is forced to sign a contract
is it true that if they don’t want to sign the contract, dangsang award and yesung’s award are given to other people?
this is seriously absurb
they work so hard to perform the best
and
other artists already try their best to help them
it should be impossible that they could not get the award
Not sure..we just translate from that chinese post..please wait for further information.
please find out the truth
damn all these things …. wad i hate is ppl are saying tat SONEs are bashing ELFs .. it was clearly the ELFs are the one 1 who bash Soshi … u cant blame on Soshi , nobody will expect them to win … nobody will expect they counted the repackaged album last minute … sriusly i hate dis award , jz giv it to Bieber oni … i duwan SONELFs to fight
“Most artists has been using their money to help SJ got the award” I still don’t get it. Why should they did it? Why they help SJ? Why they don’t help themselves? Oh. Okay. Too much question. Sorry :p
I believe they help SJ, because of SJ members are very friendly with other artist.. just like Heechul, Siwon, etc. ^^
Yeah. Sure, SJ members are very friendly and have a lot of friends. But still, it doesn’t make any sense. The other artists’ management shouldn’t let their artist support or even help SJ to get the award rite? But yeah, idk.
I wouldn’t believe this article. First of all, it’s too shady. ELFs don’t make conclusions about this first as K-ELFs didn’t even post any news like this. Only the chinese ELFs did. After what happened to the social security number fiasco by the chinese ELFs I won’t be too quick to believe anything first by chinese sources.
I think the contract here is the contract they signed to perform the Golden Wave Concert, not the contract with SMent. Even SJ used their money to vote for them. There’s definitely something fishy going on with the voting scores.
So … they were the winners ?? but SNSD got it at the last moment ?? …. $H*T … this is SO Unfair Dx
the contract in the fan account is the contract they sign to participate in the event Golden Wave concert tonight.
I know.I already know for sure SJ’s awards were robbed.First they only announced new rule of counting Repackaged album yesterday,which makes many ELFs in shock.We thought that they only counted the sales of ver A.Second when the boy wore the same clothes from SS3 I smelled something fishy.SM had never let their artists attend award ceremony wearing old clothes like that.It seemed like they wanted to signal that our boys wouldn’t win so there was no need to let them wear new clothes.The last, when one of the organizers is going to announce the Daesang winner,SJ was the ONLY artist that the camera focused on.It was too clear that even the staff and PD didn’t expect that result.When SNSD came to the stage,the camera focused on the boys again.Usually, they would cheer and clap happily but yesterday the faces of Hae,Won and Kyu expressed the obvious disappointed and unsatisfactory feelings.They didn’t even take the photo with other winners.All those things show that even the boys were extremely upset with that result.They knew for sure it was them who deserve that award, not SNSD
what’s the original rule regarding the counting of the album sales? And what’s it about the repackaged album?
Now that you’ve mentioned it! I was really wondering why SME gave them an old uniform. I mean, are they cutting on Super Junior’s budget? This is the GDA, right? I mean the Korean Grammy, as what they said, and they just gave them old outfits? It was a bit weird.
EXACTLY! All the other artistes got to wear new uniform and SJ had to wear the same thing they did last time. WTH?!
I Got that point. The second thoughts, about the outfit, I feel the same. So that’s why I feel I’ve ever seen SUJU wearing those outfit. So, is there any manipulation here? That’s bothering me…
my sentiments exactly. There are so many questionable things in this year’s GDA.
#1 the costumes.
#2 the sudden changing of rules. For the whole year, K-ELFs have been emphasizing on the fact that the repackaged album would not be counted, and the most important is Version A. This is why many foreign ELFs ordered Version A from Korea instead. I didn’t even hear of the rule change until yesterday.
#3 All the reports have been speculating that Super Junior could be the first group to win the Daesang 2 years in a row. This proves that everyone knows that the award woul be Suju’s. No reports were made on SNSD at all.
#4 Even other artistes (SHINee, f(x), CNBLUE, etc), the first people they went to were Super Junior. They must have also thought that the award would have been theirs instead of SNSD.
Regardless, this is not SNSD/SONEs’ fault. All of it is SM and the GDA organizing committee’s fault.
This is sickening !
I don’t believe this one. Yet. Yesung’s situation sounds too familiar – Hangeng’s situation last year. But, I still believe Super Junior deserves the Daesang more.
Its so hurt when read this and know more the facts !!
especially when know that my yesungie is not fine ( got fever) . really , I wanna hug him and all members. give them support and show them that me and ELFs still LOVE him though they arent get the daesang !!
totally, I was angry with SM managemnet ><
aish,jinja!
so this is the entertainment world like?
full of unfair things..
why they seems like taking of their rights?
they are forced!
ok,i’ll not blame snsd for this case..
it’s not their fault anyway..
but all we can do is always support and trust them!
everything is going to be alright!!
ELF <3 SUJU 4ever
we don’t know the real situation. rather than bashing SNSD or SONE we should just be calm. i have read various articles on how they calculate the score for Disc Daesang. I believed that SNSD won fair and square (if the article was correct). Although it is quite weird for the committee to change the scoring criteria days before the award ceremony.
but if the report from C-Elf is correct then I would personally hunt down whoever is responsible.
instead of bashing SNSD and sones who are practically Suju’s dongsaeng, we should just congratulate them and look forward for Suju next album
I cry again,sm is unfair,should suju be the winner!!
Wait wait wait! HOLD IT! So..so… let me get this straight….and simple… Super Junior was suppose to get the Disk Daesang instead of SNSD???!! …But why they changed it? wtf… yah..whoever makes ouR Super Junior oppas cry .. us ELF shall take revenge! >=[
OHMYGOSH! Their manager..sigh…why is SM strict so much? ugh. its because of their artists that they get to earn money..and now.they’re scolding them for nothing?
+ I really thought SJ would win the Daesang awards…I was shocked when SNSD was announced as the winner. not that I’m against SNSD but I support SJ more. They’re my source of happiness. ELFS! NEXT YEAR! LETS MAKE THEM WIN!
i just don’t believe this, i’m both elf and sone, i just believe what heechul wrote in his kiseki fancafe about the renewed contract. i just can’t believe chinese media and some of their lame speculation anymore after what had happened to snsd. snsd don’t deserve the award?LOL so funny. yes it’s true that suju’s album sales is higher than snsd, but there MUST be reasons why they choose snsd. and only SME knows. please, snsd do deserve the award too. why? there are plenty of reasons i said so, just google their album sales for this year. suju is mistreated? oh sure! ALL SM artistes are being mistreated by their own company. i don’t want to blame suman or their manager or whoever cause we don’t know the REAL truth. God knows though.cause that’s what entertainment world is.
oh just go watch Oh!My Lady drama already. and u’ll know the UGLY truth about entertainment industry.
suju was under and directly selected by leesooman. LSM had retired this year, and had been taken over by KIM YOUNG MIN. this guy is the one who should be blame. he had done nothing but to torture sj boys, he cut off their budgets for MV, he only like snsd. he sent snsd to japan, he gave them 3 comebacks in a year, he brought the girls to the press conference for slavery contract instead of sj or yunho, or changmin.
and yes, snsd do deserve to win, but, only if they managed to earn it. however, before u make any other assumption, just read this: http://pann.nate.com/talk/310115213
and by the way, the article in this blog is ridiculous. i wont believe it. but the total sales are different. it defntly shown that sj won. poor snsd, they didnt even know anything..obviously, kim young min who did this.
My mind’s spinning..
there some parts I Don’t understand..
about that contract..and who get hit?
it just some SUJU members got scolded…
it’s that SM really unfair?
Oh Gosh…what’s going on here?
This award left such mistery behind..
SUCK!!!!
SUJU Oppadeul, please be ok..
I don’t hate SNSD, but SJ were supposed to win, period. Fck you SMe D:
why be like this? why SM is not fair to Suju?
oh GOD,, Oppa HWAITING,, elf’s always support you,,
Yesung oppa please keep your health,,we always love you,,
i hate sm :/
Oh my… i dont understand about this article. New contract? Why. Aiish jinjja!!
SME!what exactly did u have done??be fair!don’t be cruel to SJ..they worked really hard.This shouldn’t happened to them..i wish SJ all the best and don’t worry guys,we’re all here to support all of u.hang in there..
i don’t get it. the results for Daesang Awards were changed in the last minute?
*Daesang Award was* sorry
gotta take my shot with this one..i used to be a devoted elf, but now i’m only active during promotions..although i’m now a ROYALBLOOD stan i still love the boys..
Why did Donghae got scolded (i prefer the word scolded rather than beat)?
maybe among the members, it was Donghae who showed the most intense emotion..it is important to a company that their artists unite (it makes the fans “awww”), well apparently their reactions looked like they are not happy that their hoobaes (SNSD) win but in reality they cried because they are disappointed that it’s not them (“SNSD won” and “we didn’t win” are two different things)..another is that the reactions that they showed can ignite the negative emotion of ELF that will result to the unfairness of GDA and hatred to SNSD, it might cause fanwars inside SMEnt.also the reactions will lead on questioning SNSDs win and GDA’s credibility..SMEnt doesn’t want those things to happen..
everybody already predicted that SuJu will win because they are leading (even non ELF supported that belief)..1 album, 1 entry is one of the rules for so many years..when an artist releases more than 1 album, the ales of those albums can’t be combined..if an artist releases more than 1 version, only version A will be honored..but i heard that the reason why SNSD took home the daesang was because they combined hoot and oh sales,so they changed the rule and i heard that it happened at the very last minute..if that’s right, then GDA is really unfair..in any countries and in any competition, criteria should be made before the start of the competition..if the event organizers changed the criteria at the very last minute, it only means 1 thing: they want their bet to win..
kELF did everything to boost up the sales even though it’s pretty much obvious that SJ is leading and SNSD couldn’t keep up, the sudden rise of sales of both groups happened around Oct..that’s why the whole kpop world was stunned when SNSD wins..
Why did the other artists supported SJ rather than themselves?
well obviously,they couldn’t keep up with their album sales so the motto is “if we can’t win, the deserving ones should”
About the contract..
it was just a concert contract they signed..it was just an assurance that there will be no last minute back out..it’s normal, nothing to worry about..
If GDA has not any problem. So why SUJU cried? Wherever and whenever SNSD won an award, SUJU must be the first person who congratulate them right?? Why are they crying on GDA yesterday. And I believe SUJU are not that silly to cry just because they didn’t get that award. Because they are SUPER JUNIOR!!!
sorry but I don’t believe this article bcoz K-ELFs didn’t make a statement about this~ and please don’t rush to believe it coz it would only cause miss understanding and fight, thanks
i still don’t get why donghae oppa got furious. why teuk kyu and hyukkie got scolded. and ELF’s reaction thing..! please explain further about the 1st part? haha . jk
i think it’s about what happend to jessica in china
it’s feels like SM want snsd to shut up about that so they gave them the award after they made sure that the winner is one of SM which all of us know that they were SUPER JUNIOR!!
Since the award has already been presented to Snsd alr, why mourn over it? As long as we all know Suju is the best in our hearts, it doesn’t matter. Give them some practical support (: & care more about Yesung
Yesung fighting!!!!
Q: regarding the daesang awards
A: The lights were shone on SJ, and Leeteuk even prepared himself. But when the daesang was announced, everyone was shocked. The immediate switch of focus over to SNSD, etc..was all a last minute change.
Just…plz！ don be Jealous and talk so many nonsense!
So Disappointed to see what u write!!!
How about give your idol 10 years daesang awards for no reason…..good?